Chatting in #terrafusion:
Shambler = Me
Killes   = Metal fanatic and general pain in the arse
Vondur   = Ex-metal fanatic being converted to jungle fanatic

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<Killes> well vond is under the delusion that soethign becomign trndy has to ruin it
<Killes> kidding :)
<Shambler> well
<Vondur> killes no
<Shambler> that depends on what the artists do
<Vondur> this is only for black metal, because bm was a special thing
<Shambler> like with jungle, roni size and goldie have been popular and got into the charts
           for god's sake
<Killes> vondur
<Killes> i said i was kidding
<Shambler> but jungle itself has not got all poppy and charty, in fact it's got a lot harder
           since then
<Shambler> maybe a reaction, maybe not
<Vondur> yes, dnb is not for average ear actually
<Shambler> yeah at the moment von....apart from mellow stuff like bukem....
<Shambler> but i think jungle is getting too hard in general
<Vondur> yea
<Shambler> i hope it will get a bit mellower and slower as it's unbalanced towards hard 
           stuff
<Vondur> more aggressive
<Shambler> i mean i like hard stuff lots, but i don't like a whole scene focused on it as i 
           don't think a dance music scene can be sustained like that
<Shambler> it will be interesting to see where drum'n'bass goes....
<Vondur> well, the good example of dnb future is bad company i think
<Shambler> but that's still hard and dark though!
<Vondur> yes
<Shambler> hmmm
<Vondur> and i think it will be harder with time
<Vondur> and darker
<Shambler> and then what von?
<Shambler> it's gonna frighten ppl away
<Vondur> hmm
<Killes> hehe
<Shambler> the harder a scene gets, the smaller it gets
<Vondur> dunno
<Killes> "frghten people away"
<Killes> so what shamb
<Vondur> yes
<Killes> scenes like metal manage to sustain
<Killes> even the ones like blackmetal
<Shambler> hmmmm
<Shambler> maybe it will just become a small hard scene like gabber used to be...
<Killes> shamb, small scenes are better
<Killes> way better
<Shambler> killes the thing is that drum'n'bass is giving little choice at the moment
<Vondur> Shambler, there will be various styles of dnb from old ganjakru's cute dnb to hard 
         techstep i think
<Shambler> it's either hard or very mellow
<Shambler> yeah von but most of it is focused on the hard with, like, little balance between
           hard and soft
<Vondur> well, maybe
<Shambler> i mean the gap between Ram (typical hard) and Bukem (typical soft) is getting
           larger
<Killes> ok what is good hard nasty dirty dnb ?
<Killes> if i wnted to get some
<Vondur> exactly shamb..
<Shambler> panacea!!!
<Killes> what bands wud that be
<Killes> ok 
<Killes> which album ?
<Shambler> panacea, panacea and more panacea
<Vondur> bad company!
<Shambler> position chrome retrospective (position chrome records)
<Killes> why dos the records name matter
<Killes> i never understand
<Killes> why u always mention whoever is distributing it
<Shambler> so you can find/order it easier
<Killes> oh ok
<Shambler> von: yeah but that's a weirdly skewed scene
<Shambler> it's like a metal scene that consists of bands like bon jovi and 
  then bands like emperor, with nothing in between
<Vondur> hehehehe
<Shambler> i also think if a scene focuses on hard stuff it will disappear up it's own arse 
           quicker
<Vondur> yes
<Shambler> if you start from middle ground there are more directions and options to explore 
           musically, but if you start with hard stuff there are less options
<Vondur> exactly
<Shambler> i mean like jungle 2-3 years ago, was kinda  a middle ground....and most of it 
           got harder, but it's backing itself into a 2step techstep corner
<Killes> advatage of being more concentrated
<Shambler> well yeah killes it certainly wrings all the possibilites out of the harder end 
           of the spektrum....
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