Chatting in terrafusion:
shambles       = Me
Killes         = Wannabe anarchist
Zan|UT         = Zan, playing UT curiously enough
Frib           = Frib, not playing UT
BobbyW-mapping = Guess what Bobby is doing

Note: I'd just read a log of Killes complaining that Q3A was offering nothing to people 
offline. Obviously I do not like Q3A not including single player, but I can see some 
positive sides for other people. I haven't corrected Killes' spelling, as I don't have 
several days to spare.

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<shambles> Actually Killes, you are wrong. Id are offering something very 
  important to people offline - simulated multiplayer deathmatch. I personally am 
  not interested in that, but for a lot of offline players it will be very original and 
  very exciting.
<Killes> shamb;es
<Killes> it only lasts so long
<Killes> 2 it aint no way as cool as a real sp experience with monstes and a 
  scenario
<shambles> no
<shambles> for me it isn't
<shambles> as i've experienced both, i know what i like
<Killes> bot match bopres me outta my fucking ass actually
<Killes> always the same boring bots
<Killes> u liekj the real sp right?
<Killes> anyways
<Killes> shambles
<shambles> for offline players who have never experienced deathmatch, ut and 
  q3a will be a revelation (assuming the bots are good)
<Killes> ti dosnt change thefatc that
<shambles> killes
<Killes> botmatch is a lazy way to offer sumthign to peopel without internet
<shambles> at least try to spell some of your words right
<Zan|UT> what about ut?
<Killes> program bot ia , create troutes
<Killes> there we go
<Frib> shambles, the ut bots are reasonable
<Killes> all doen in one month MAX
<shambles> or is it, killes???
<Zan|UT> and the bots in q3a'll be good.
<Frib> killes, not necessarily
<Killes> an maybe a week or 2 if u rip the AI from som1 else
<Frib> there's also the $ factor
<Zan|UT> The omi guy is making them
<Frib> even the people with net access don't have the luxury of using it whenever 
  they want
<Killes> even os frib anwyays
<Frib> and even tho the bots may not be as fun...
<Killes> it stil is a lazy way of making a game quicker with more eyecandy to get 
  more $$$
<Frib> there is no lag
<Killes> using the quake name
<Frib> which is nice for people who don't lan
<Frib> and they will play any map..
<Zan|UT> killes, how?
<Frib> bots have their place
<Killes> zan
<Zan|UT> q3a is gonna have the same # of maps as every other id game, if not 
  more.
<Killes> 1 using the qauek name makes peopel buy it , 2 not doing a SP and 
  concentrating on buffing up the motor with tons of eyecandy makes it sell better 
  and makes the game faster to make
<Zan|UT> They're packaging what, like 20 player models? and a ton of skins as 
  well.
<Killes> thus miucho $$$ quick
<Killes> so zan
<Killes> that aint hard
<Zan|UT> Killes, it's talking just as long.
<shambles> killes....sigh
<Killes> thats poart of EYECANDY
<Zan|UT> Erm...no.
<shambles> you don't get it
<Killes> uhhhhhhh
<Killes> who the FUCK needs 20 models
<Killes> and tons of skin
<Zan|UT> Well...
<Killes> shambvle
<Killes> si do get it
<Frib> yeah, they're so evil for wanting to make good lookin games
<Frib> ya dildo
<Killes> i get it better than most people :)
<Zan|UT> It's the equiv of proggin and a lot of monsters.
<Zan|UT> ok Killes.
<shambles> 1. it offers something new to offline players, 2. it tries to focus on 
  what id percieves they do best, 3. it's a sensible way to test technology before 
  releasing a full sp game
<Killes> i see that todays idsoftware is producing crap games using the 
  reputation of the name and eyecandy to sell lots big time
<Killes> shambles
<Killes> theyre nto gonna make a sp game after
<Zan|UT> Rather than a lot of custom sp maps which most of us will play through 
  2 or 3 times...
<Frib> you can hardly call the games crap, even if you don't personally like them
<Zan|UT> They're making a lot of DM maps.
<Frib> well, after patching anyway :)
<Killes> quake 2 m they used the big name quake , it wa big by then
<Killes> quake 3a , quake has an even bigger name these days
<Zan|UT> Instead of tons of different monsters and some good ai.
<Frib> no, because the name was not enough to convince q1 players
<Killes> anways
<Frib> a lot of them didn't buy/play it
<Killes> ive alredy mucho ranted on this
<Frib> they got more new customers tho
<Zan|UT> They're packaging some player models and kickass bot ai.
<Killes> zan
<Killes> bot ai aint hard to do these days
<Frib> yes
<Killes> 2 , who gives A FLYING FUCK ABOTU MDOELS
<shambles> ummm frib i think they bought it and then had a whinefest because 
  dm was different
<Frib> you're the master of it of course
<Killes> I MEAN WTF ARE THEY FOR
<Frib> me
<Killes> EYYYYYYYECANDY TARD!
<Frib> I care about models
<Frib> I want the choice
<Killes> daaaaaaaaamn ur stupid
<Zan|UT> Yeah Killes......
<Kab1e> so whats the problem here? killies rekonz quake3a will suck....? SO? 
  what do YOU care? if you think it'll suck, SO FUCKING WHAT!
<Zan|UT> Why not have every monster use the same model them?
<Zan|UT> hmm?
<Killes> :)
<Killes> zan
<Frib> not because it was different shambie.. because it was inferior
<Killes> MOSNTERS are different
<shambles> frib
<Killes> ;llayerm odels
<Killes> are sunmthign else
<shambles> in your opinion
<Zan|UT> No, it's the same.
<Killes> u only ned 2 or 3
<Frib> yes
<Killes> who needs 20 models
<Zan|UT> sigh...
<shambles> a lot of people liked it more....
<Zan|UT> I do.
<Frib> good luck to em
<Frib> :)
<Killes> its just a cheap way to sel mroe quake 3 a cpies to diumbasses like you
<Killes> oh look
<Killes> we got 20 models+ and lots a pwetty skins
<Frib> shambler: I saved my money when I realised it wasn't up to scratch
<Killes> that means the game obviously rox
<shambles> killes...models are cool - they are also id's way of trying to spice up 
  the botmatch to give it more of a SP feel
<Zan|UT> I wonder if ut's irc prog has an ignore feature...
<Killes> sshambles
<Killes> theyr todays id way to sel mroe copies
<Zan|UT> nope.
<Killes> WAKE UP!
<Zan|UT> Fuck.
<Killes> WAKE UP!
<shambles> i am awake
<Killes> OPEN YOUR EYES FFS
<Zan|UT> Well Killes...
<shambles> killes
<Frib> ./ignore killes
<Killes> abway
<Killes> im off
<Zan|UT> Frib doesn't work.
<shambles> i have been complaining about the lack of SP in q3a since you were 
  even born
<Zan|UT> GOOD!
<Killes> cya :)
<Zan|UT> Get out.
<Zan|UT> Psycho.
<shambles> so don't give me this dick
<Killes> :))))
<Killes> shambles
<shambles> i can see both sides....
<Killes> so?
<Killes> i wanna rant about it
<Killes> cos i feel like it
<Killes> and i wanna say : hail to dkt :)
<shambles> well at least try to make the slightest bit of sense
<Killes> :)
<Killes> heheh
<Killes> i aint no sensible person :)
<Frib> evidently
<shambles> well....your rants aren't impressing me, and i'm sorta on the same 
  side (at least, i want sp)
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