Chatting in #terrafusion:
Sh4m813r  = Me
SpiderGEC = Complete boner
than      = God's gift to misspelling
Damaul    = God's gift to Q1 SP mapping
Skarlath  = Some type of mapper I'm sure
P4u1      = You should know him by now

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<SpiderGEC> what i really hate is some of the textures in q3 look like unreal textures
<Sh4m813r> unreal textures are utterly excellent
<than> aw
<Skarlath>   :P
<Skarlath> agreed
<DaMaul> agreed
<DaMaul> and the quake3 textures dont look anything like them
<DaMaul> ?
* Sh4m813r slaps than around a bit with a large trout
*** Sh4m813r is now known as TEAMspektrum
<DaMaul> Hmm im suddenly in a bad mood
<DaMaul> for no reason
* TEAMspektrum pours sand in Damaul's hair...that should give him a reason
<SpiderGEC> unreal textures are stupid
<DaMaul> Stupid in what way?
<DaMaul> I thought textures didnt have any intelligence
<DaMaul> So that sort of rules them out of any form of stupidity
<Skarlath> the unreal ones have a low  IQ
<SpiderGEC> most of them where made by taking photos with a digital camera
<SpiderGEC> then turned into textures
<SpiderGEC> damaul shutup u twit
<DaMaul> its worked well
<SpiderGEC> no it didnt
<DaMaul> Just look at unreal for fuck sake
<DaMaul> Its a gorgeous game
<TEAMspektrum> stupid as in they look excellent from a distance, and compensate 
  extremely well for simple architecture, then when you get close up, you see all 
  sorts of surface detail NO other textures have?? that sort of stupid??
<SpiderGEC> no
<SpiderGEC> goddamit shutup
<Skarlath> haha
<DaMaul> Unreal is the best looking 3d shooter out at the moment
<TEAMspektrum> agreed
<SpiderGEC> stupid+bad
<DaMaul> Not including q3test
<Skarlath> agreed
<SpiderGEC> =bad
<SpiderGEC> damaul shut your fucking trap
<DaMaul> spider you're losing the battle here
<TEAMspektrum> spider, are you blind or just ignorant?
<Skarlath> well, q3test hasnt the atmosphere unreal has, like the waterfall on level2
<SpiderGEC> let me get some screenshots
<TEAMspektrum> there is no battle....that assumes there is something on spider's 
  side...but there isn't
<DaMaul> The battle of mindless insults versus well supported facts will always be a 
  one sided battle
<TEAMspektrum> lol!!
<TEAMspektrum> good quote =)
<Skarlath> haha
<TEAMspektrum> skar: that is as much a function of unreal being a SP game as 
  anything though - if unreal was a dm game, you wouldn't see much stuff like that
<TEAMspektrum> really, you should be comparing the unreal dm maps to q3atest
<Skarlath> I guess
<DaMaul> unreal does have a fucking shit editor though
<DaMaul> Although the 3d preview is brilliant
<SpiderGEC> okay lets compare unreal tourney to q3
<SpiderGEC> unreal tourney looks shitty!
<TEAMspektrum> really
<TEAMspektrum> you have seen UT in person??
<Skarlath> it looks very similar to unreal
<DaMaul> We arent talking about UT
<TEAMspektrum> or is that just a blatant lie based on comparing screenshots with 
  an actual demo??
<DaMaul> Ive seen UT moving on televsion and it looks exactly like a very slightly 
  modified unreal
<DaMaul> which is bad
<SpiderGEC> http://www.planetunreal.com/Nick/assets/images/stargate21.JPG
<SpiderGEC> look how bad the lgihting in this shot looks
<SpiderGEC> unreal=weakness
<SpiderGEC> unreal=suxorz
<TEAMspektrum> really spider
<DaMaul> Have you ever played Unreal?
<DaMaul> I think not
<Skarlath> haha
<TEAMspektrum> and what do you base those fascinating "facts" on then??
<SpiderGEC> http://www.planetunreal.com/Nick/assets/images/stargate15.JPG 
<SpiderGEC> look how bad this looks
<SpiderGEC> looks terrible
<SpiderGEC> i have unreal i got it when it was new
<SpiderGEC> ~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
<DaMaul> Thats not even a screenshot from unreal for fuck sake
<TEAMspektrum> or perhaps, you have realised there is no way you can argue 
  unreal looks bad, so you are trying other random insults??
<DaMaul> Its from a custom map
*** TEAMspektrum is now known as TEAMShambler
<DaMaul> unreal is not the best game out there at the moment, but it's certainly the 
  best looking
<than> hmmm
<Skarlath> yah
<SpiderGEC> http://www.planetunreal.com/Nick/assets/images/stargate19.JPG
<SpiderGEC> crap
<DaMaul> Hmm
<DaMaul> I think you should reserve your judgement on something until youve 
  actually seen it properly
<DaMaul> Rather than some tiny screenshot
<TEAMShambler> tell me spider, did you suffer a horrible accident as a child, or were 
  you born retarded??
<Skarlath> yeah
<TEAMShambler> and what damaul said too
<TEAMShambler> hey i know!!
<SpiderGEC> http://www.planetunreal.com/willhaven/images/corridor1.JPG
<SpiderGEC> this shot looks okay
<DaMaul> That isnt even from an official unreal level
<SpiderGEC> but only casue of the fog
<SpiderGEC> if the fog was not there it would look like shiznit
<TEAMShambler> lets find the smallest poxiest screenshots of some lame custom 
  level and pretend it makes the game look crap!!
<DaMaul> The shots you were bleeting about are from some map author's own 
  levels
<TEAMShambler> no lets, it will be really fun, and will fool everyone
<DaMaul> heh
<SpiderGEC> k im getting some example shots from unreal.com
<SpiderGEC> to make u happy
<TEAMShambler> besides, this all started because Spider managed to deceive 
  himself that the textures were "stupid", but since he has no evidence to back up 
  that fallacy whatsoever, he's now trying some different tactics
<DaMaul> You could never make me happy
<TEAMShambler> spider: u would make me happy if you ripped your own tongue out 
  with a screwdriver
<DaMaul> (shambler it's spelt: Phallacy)
<TEAMShambler> no it's not you d0rk
<DaMaul> Yes it is
<than> in sayiong that unreal is the best looking game you aren't saying it has the 
  best engine of the fps games that have been released are you? (excluding q3test)
<DaMaul> and it describes something which looks like a penis
<DaMaul> It hasnt got the best engine
<TEAMShambler> okay, well, yeah that fits my point as well damaul
<than> ok
<TEAMShambler> okay, what has damaul??
<DaMaul> Because it uses some bizarre CSG system which doesnt really work
<TEAMShambler> Q2, Lithtech, Unreal??
<DaMaul> I think the q2 engine is better than unreal
<Skarlath> q2
<DaMaul> although it doesnt look better
<than> it runs slower, looks like it pushes fewer polys than for example, q2 and 
  tends to be all flashy effects
<DaMaul> Unreal can only handle about 200 faces without slowdown
<Skarlath> q2,, flashy effects, what do u call unreals weapons?
<TEAMShambler> yes
<SpiderGEC> http://www.unreal.com/downloads/ss_pool.jpg
<than> if used correctly the flashy shit looks ace but in some of unreals levels it 
  looked shite
<SpiderGEC> looks like crap
<TEAMShambler> but, it can handle enormous outside areas
<SpiderGEC> look how bad the lighting is
<SpiderGEC> look how crappy the textures look
<SpiderGEC> look how bad the models are
<SpiderGEC> look how bad the game looks
<DaMaul> Look how badly spider tries to backup his points
<Skarlath> models are good
<TEAMShambler> spider?? why do you insist on being so utterly wrong??
<than> hehe
<TEAMShambler> does it give you w00d or something??
<DaMaul> The colours in that screenshot are totally fucked up
<DaMaul> It looks nothing like that in game
<TEAMShambler> lol spider
<TEAMShambler> nice Photoshop job to fuck up that screeny!!
<than> the textures are very good imho, the lighting is very nice when used 
  sparingly (ie, don't stick in 100 flashy strobe effects in one scene)
<SpiderGEC> that screennshot is from unreal.com jerkoff
<TEAMShambler> yes
<TEAMShambler> and it is a pile of total toss
<DaMaul> Its a bad screenshot
<TEAMShambler> because it looks nothing like the game
<DaMaul> unreal looks nothing like that
<Skarlath> u run nali city shamb?
<TEAMShambler> no
<than> spider, have you played unreal?
<TEAMShambler> i just do the SP reviews for them
<TEAMShambler> QAPete runs it
<SpiderGEC> http://www.unreal.com/downloads/ss_castle.jpg
<than> spider, have you played unreal?
<SpiderGEC> look how bad the colored lighting in this shot
<than> spider, have you played unreal?
<Skarlath> k
<SpiderGEC> I HAVE UNREAL i bought it when it first came out
<SpiderGEC> then i deleated it
<DaMaul> Spider is indulging in the sort of Nintendo vs Playstation pointless arguing 
  that all young children get involved in
<than> and you think that the first level looks shit?
<SpiderGEC> notice there is only "4" screenshots on the unreal.com website
<SpiderGEC> i thought that was  supposed to be a official site and only 4 shots
<SpiderGEC> thats just plain sad
<TEAMShambler> oh go on spidey, thrill us with another screenshot that looks 
  nothing like the game
<TEAMShambler> no please, we love it
<TEAMShambler> why not take some of your own, scribble all over them in Paint, 
  reduce the quality to nothing, and then upload them
<DaMaul> I disliked unreal when i played it on my old p150 with 3dfx1 card
<TEAMShambler> it would be just as convincing and even funnier
<than> i don't. I think it's quite good though and I certainly do not agree with spider
<DaMaul> But when i played it on a decent PC i decided i loved it
<SpiderGEC> i have a descent 
<TEAMShambler> actually, even that crappy pre-beta shot has it's good points - look 
  at the sky!!
<SpiderGEC> PC
<DaMaul> i never said you didnt spider
<SpiderGEC> teamshambler those shots are from unreal.com
<SpiderGEC> u dipshit
<DaMaul> Yes they are pre-beta shots
<DaMaul> obviously 
<DaMaul> As the bear no resemblence to the actual finished game
<than> spider, you still have the unreal box? look on the back of it you fool
<than> screenshots
<Skarlath> remember when it was stated to run on a 486?
<than> look bad? no I don't think so...
<than> hehe
<than> that was before quake 1 was out
<TEAMShambler> better idea
<SpiderGEC> ahh  look at this shot of a nerf game using the unreal engine it looks 
  like shit http://www.unrealnews.com/screenshots/nerfball1.jpg
<Skarlath> I know 
<TEAMShambler> SPider: get the game. install the game. turn up details to normal 
  settings. use eyes to look at screen. revel in the depths of your utter and complete 
  wrongness
<TEAMShambler> w0w
<SpiderGEC> unreal fuxing sux
<TEAMShambler> so you've realised you are utterly wrong about unreal, so you are 
  showing a completely different game using the unreal engine!!
<TEAMShambler> excellent
<DaMaul> heh
<TEAMShambler> your "arguments" get less and less convincing
<SpiderGEC> im not gonna waste 400megs to install some gay ass game
<DaMaul> I guess you like half life Spider?
<Skarlath> look at the Wheel of time game.. urneal engine, pretty pretty
<TEAMShambler> not that they ever had any sense behind them in the first place
<TEAMShambler> yeah skar!!
<DaMaul> I could pull up some great shots of how halflife looked 2 years before it 
  was released
<TEAMShambler> W0T looks sweet -)
<TEAMShambler> oh yeah or quake2
<DaMaul> The one thing bad about unreal is its poor deathmatch play
<TEAMShambler> remember those wonderful alpha q2 shots without coloured or 
  sourced lighting??
<TEAMShambler> i remember those...
<TEAMShambler> yeah damaul....and maybe some ineffective weapons
<SpiderGEC> http://www.unrealnews.com/screenshots/screenshot2.jpg look at the 
  texture on the base of the power generators it looks like crap hahaha:)
<TEAMShambler> oh i can't wait!!
<TEAMShambler> let me guess, it's a black and white pre-alpha shot of some custom 
  level??
<DaMaul> ummm
<TEAMShambler> oooh
<TEAMShambler> look at the blurry poor quality screenshot
<DaMaul> Its a pre-alpha shot of unreal, judging from the gun which has never been 
  included in any version of unreal
<TEAMShambler> marvel at the weapon that indicates it's not a final game shot
<TEAMShambler> gasp at the fact you aren't close enough to see the excellent 
  surface detail
<TEAMShambler> thrill at spidey wasting yet more time demonstrating his stupidity
<Skarlath> http://www.wheeloftime.com/  go and have a look at the ss's there 
  spiderboy
<SpiderGEC> http://www.unrealkingdom.com/unreal/Shot0027.JPG i guess the 
  unreal team doesnt know how to light there mapz
* Skarlath slaps SpiderGEC around a bit with a large trout
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<Skarlath> paul can take spiders side
<TEAMShambler> hey guess what spidey!!
<P4U1> yello
<Skarlath>   :P
<Skarlath> hi
<TEAMShambler> that screenshot's too darj
<TEAMShambler> dark!!
<P4U1> whut going on?
<TEAMShambler> the actual level is nothing like that!!
<TEAMShambler> you're wrong again!!
<TEAMShambler> yippee!!
<SpiderGEC> http://www.unrealkingdom.com/unreal/Shot0022.JPG hey lets make a 
  crap architecture and will add some pointless eyecandy like reflected floors  
  YEAHHH!!!
<TEAMShambler> paul: spidey is trying to claim unreal looks bad!!
<TEAMShambler> it's hilarious
<TEAMShambler> i've never seen someone so wrong try to argue a point so badly 
  for so long!!
<SpiderGEC> im not giving UP!
<Skarlath> err, u said q3test sucks, unreal sucks, what do u like.... wolenstein?
<SpiderGEC> actually yes
<SpiderGEC> i love wolf3d 
<P4U1> yeah
<P4U1> hes right
*** P4U1 is now known as Paul
<TEAMShambler> you don't have to give up - there is nothing to give up on - you 
  have no points, no arguments, no brain...
<Skarlath> other things we wont mention
<TEAMShambler> ooh, another too dark shot, spidey, your excellent
<TEAMShambler> come on spidey, keep entertaining use
<TEAMShambler> us, even
<TEAMShambler> bah
<Skarlath> I think unreal is ugly because  it is
<SpiderGEC> im looking for more shots i guess sense unreal sucks such a nut that its almost 
impossible to find shots for it HAH!
<Skarlath>   :P
<Skarlath> later ppls time for some sleep
* Skarlath slaps SpiderGEC around a bit with a large trout
<TEAMShambler> i have some gorgeous screenshots on my windows background right now
<Paul> sucky butt
<TEAMShambler> which conclusively show that unreal is the best looking game ever made
<TEAMShambler> hey spider, a word of advice
<TEAMShambler> don't waste your time looking for shots
<Paul> arse
<TEAMShambler> you are, always have, and always will be completely wrong about this - 
nothing you do or say can possibley change that, so you might as well stop wasting your time
and do something more productive instead
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